It is possible to apply for the Pemesso di Soggiorno for stay more than 90 days? you enter the country as a tourist and then apply right? Obviously it would help with the paperwork to have a job in the city, but tell me– Is it possible to move to Rome without marrying an Italian or having employment already lined up? I have schengen visa for europe.can i apply for permesso de soggiorno in italy???? I’ll be travelling back stateside for the months of June-September, and my PDS expires on the 23rd of September. It is not impossible! This is a great piece Natalie–really thorough and a great touchstone as I wade through paperwork of our third round of permessi…I still feel that, when all is said and done, it’s so worth it, and so I plod onward. Thanks. Katie. Is there a chance my appointment date will fall on a day when I am not back in Rome? Your quip about reveling in the glory for a few months till you have to start again made me smile. Hi John! Sorry how are you guy’s doing, can you travel with your six months permes di sigorrn by flight with your home country passport??? My question is if my husband is a dual citizen can I (a US citizen) apply for a PS without having a visa first? Hi Emerald, as far as I understand the process – it is the opposite. I am in a tricky situation, I go back to Milan for university on September (as soon as I get there I’ll begin the process of renewing it), and my PdS expires in October, but I want to go back home for a couple of weeks in December/January for the holidays, and if my PdS takes as long as the last time (6 months), I will have nothing but the receipt as a travel document, besides my passport. The officers will call your time and have you line up, but they will likely be running behind schedule. If you would like to work, the right visa is necessary. Wish I had a book. I am in the same predicament, here on a working holiday visa so my intention is to travel around for the first 3 months and means I don’t have a fixed address. I think they question you are asking is probably more about visas than about permessi di soggiorno. However, if you only have a visa for 6 months, then the maximum amount of validity of your permesso is 6 months. 01/02/2014 05:28 pm ET Updated Mar 04, 2014 I wait with them, under the first pink streaks of sunrise. I think back then it was 800 euro/month. You must miss California . Here is how you can get your very own Permesso di Soggiorno (Italian permit for stays longer than 3 months): Within 8 days of moving to Italy, you have to apply for your permesso. I am American. That makes things much more clear for me. Once everything is accepted by the post office, you will get a piece of paper that looks like it was printed in 1988 and some receipts. Thank you so much for the reply. Hi Natalie, Hi Natalie, I am EU Citizen, my wife is from China, and we’re preparing to move to Italy as our daughter will soon start at the Accademia di Belle Arti di Roma, for 4 years. It won’t be super pleasant but it has gotten a lot better. I see someone has already asked about needing a fixed address – can you please elaborate on this? Even for the permesso, you will need a fixed address. 17. Thank you. Can you plz tell me is it possible to travel out of Italy while the permesso di soggiorno is being processed and our visa has already expired. You always need a plan B in Italy. This is because you have to convert your visa (which grants you access into the country) to a permit of stay (which allows you to actually stay in the country). Are there any other places that it is necessary to show it? Having basic Italian will help you a lot. We are retirees and have means to support ourselves as well as health insurance. The permesso should be ready in 30-45 days and you can then go pick it up at the police station nearest to your home. If you are in Rome, you can get the Rome questura by taking Metro B to Rebibbia. I am assuming I have my CF, Get a home fast in Anzio 50km south west of Roma where I have Italian friends, Go to Anagrafe in Anzio to register my residency and go thru’ that process – and that should be all. If you have the carta, you are lucky and that is what you need. Thank you. Permesso di soggiorno is a document that the Italian state demands of all foreign citizens, that is citizens of countries that are not part of the European Union (EU). Do you have only a residency certificate? Hi Natalie, thanks for your speedy response! Should I start worrying? Thanks again. Thank you for the prompt reply! It should say “permesso di soggiorno” on the screen. It’s not possible to arrive as a tourist and then apply for a PdS. I have a question that seems thorougly covered, but not clear. Thanks, Hillary! How are you supposed to get one then? I asked the questura who said I could just leave with my passport, but I wanted to ask whether or not the border control asks for proof of permit when leaving the Schengen area. 10/01/2018: Sportello per Convocazioni PSE "Permesso di Soggiorno Elettronico" e pratiche di competenza della Questura aperto al pubblico con i seguenti orari: dal lunedì al venerdì dalla ore 8.30 ale ore 12.00 e mercoledì pomeriggio dalle ore 14.30 alle ore 16.30 (apertura riservata esclusivamente agli utenti . I have dual citizenship: USA and Switzerland. Thanks for all the info- super helpful! Hi Lauren, Did you find out any further info on this? The permesso will say “per motivi di…” and then the working conditions are based on that. So valid Working papers dunno? Re: Correzione dati sul permessodi soggiorno. I would suggest being in touch with the Italian embassy in Australia just to confirm if you need anything before departure or if you can apply for the carta di soggiorno (not di permesso) once you arrive. Hi Natalie ! Inserisci il numero di pratica (10 caratteri) o il tuo numero di assicurata (12 caratteri) della richiesta del tuo permesso di soggiorno Oltre all’avviso visualizzabile tramite questo sistema informatico, sullo stato del procedimento, sarà inviato al cittadino straniero un sms con l’indicazione delle modalità per il ritiro del permesso di soggiorno già pronto: giorno, ora e luogo. Ciao. please grateful your advice. You would not qualify for national healthcare and so would have to prove that you are covered by private health insurance in order to apply for the visa/permesso. Then you have to pay 27.50. I’m wondering about my own situation, which is that I simply want to live in Italy more than 90 days (tourism is the closest category, I suppose), but not to work in Italy. I would go ahead and apply now. Hi Emaan! What is the reality here? One of these was a letter from my landlord saying I had permission to live in the house. Thank god for your blog, so helpful! Tracy. Dati passaporti diversi da quelli del permesso di soggiorno: Dichiarazione consolare. Hmmm.. You are quite wonderful. Thank you Natalie. As far as I know, you need a visa. A list of these is available on the Poste Italia website. Il permesso di soggiorno è un documento differente dalla carta di soggiorno e dal nuovo permesso CE di lungo periodo. I applied for my renewal last week and my appointment is on Dec. 14. Hi Natalie – best info I have been able to find – so thank you. We dont have a fixed address. In order to obtain a residence permit pensioner enough help from social security. I would like to have your email or another form of contact . Hi Natalie, I have come to Italy through a Family Reunion Visa and I have applied for my PSD but I have a single entry visa can I come back to Italy to collect my PSD with my post office receipt? It is housing suitability certificate required for dependent Visa. More information is available on the Portale Immigrazione in Italian. What are my options please, Hi Peter – I would suggest calling the questura directly. Situation – going to Italy as an Au Pair – needs to be there Sept ’18-Sept ’19 Hello Kenneth, i from Turkey thats why no need to take visa to turkey just i have a problem for transportation to sofia. Hi Austin – not at all! I have never been corrected at the questura (immigration office). It is really useful for me. I waited about 3 hours to complete the appointment when I returned. So I thought it is easy for me but the experince was very different. Hi Natalie. Permesso per motivi umanitari, correzione di rotta dopo l’abrogazione del Decreto Salvini. Arrive. I am a type 1 diabetic. Hi can you give more info about this Hi Emily – so glad you found the blog useful. Make sure to bring your passport with you in person. Hi Natalie, I came to Italy one month back and going through all the nightmare. Then you can apply for the permesso. Once you are married, the UN can support your visa , Hi Natalie A visa is your permission to enter the country, where as the permesso is the permission to stay. Any advice would be sincerely appreciated. I realize I must register with PdS within 8 days of arrival – so will follow your steps above – the catch is the health insurance – will a long term travel insurance policy covering medical and emergency evacuation be suitable – since it appears I cannot apply for a voluntary SSN without the PdS? Good luck! I’m sorry but it sounds like you can only legally stay 90 days, including the time needed for the 6 week course. Exactly – I would find the minimum insurance you are comfortable with and then apply for the SSN once you have the PdS. Can you tell me if is the problem, can i delay the date for received permesso? I want i am Partner in the company in Itlay can I apply for Permesso di Soggiorno in Italy. I will give the answer as well as I understand it: yes. My plan is to arrive in Rome with a Student Visa, apply for Residence Permit, go to London for 3 weeks and then come back to Rome. Hi Natalie, In diritto amministrativo e in diritto internazionale, il permesso di soggiorno è un documento rilasciato da un'amministrazione di uno stato a un a che This is exceptional information. “cross” with a fifth arm expressing to Fiumicino airport. Wishing you the best of luck in Italy! I want to make sure I have this correct. Documenti per visto e permesso di soggiorno , se necessario. I know the feelings of stress which is why I tried to lay out the steps! And this process is repeatable how many times? We don’t intend to work, we just want to travel throughout Italy, paint and research art history. That’s all (I’m sorry, I know it’s a lot) for now. (I apologize for my delayed response– I only now saw that you had responded forever ago!). It is more difficult to change the application appointment, but you can collect it almost any time after it is ready. I want to retire to Italy. And that is the tricky part, my passport does not allow me to enter the Schengen area without a visa, not even as a tourist, and during the holidays I want to travel to my home country in South America, and I don’t think I can exit and enter the Schengen area with just my receipt. Our goal is to live in Italy for a year, strongly leaning towards Rome. Do you have to pay tax when you are a resident? but i want to be sure about that with receipt from post office, can i go to sofia or not. I am just confused because he doesn’t have a visa to switch from …, Hi Manu – if you have residency, your husband should be entitled to a carta di soggiorno (motivi familiare), Thanks for your post I have a study visa valid for one year as I take my master in Rome however my course is 10 days every 2 months I have took to classy as now I just stay 15 days every time I enter Italy after the 15 days I leave to my home country now I have six months left on my visa my next course start on October also for 15 days but this time I wanted to stay for more than 90 days it’s ok for me to apply for stay pirmet in Italy. Come controllare online se il permesso di soggiorno è pronto? Finish submitting for her student visa for Jan-June while still in USA or at least I could go back to Italy to pick up my renew permesso after next monday (expiry date of my current permesso). We are planning to get married a couple months in on her 3 month tourist visa here, if/when we get married, what type of visa do I need for Italy’s permit to stay, and will I need to do the same thing listed in your steps? Hi Bianca! You should be able to travel, but take all the receipts that you are given at the Post Office as proof that you have applied. I probably will not be working. Hi Hamadi – that should be fine as long as the permesso is valid. Return to USA in Sept (will this cause problems given her visa and I assume her PdS, Really. Hi Audrey, the PdS should be good for the same time period as your visa – so six months. Just thought I would share my experience for anyone reading! That’s right, it is called a “kit”. Signing this requires you to attend a few Italian civics and life classes, which I assume is simply a matter of showing up and staying to the end of the class (no tests required as far as I know). I’ve been told that we will need a visa for a stay longer than 90 days. Filled out and sent through the post office? I submitted the necessary documents to the Italian Consulate in my state of residence to reacquire my Italian Citizenship which they accepted and received a stamped “DICHIARAZIONE DI RIACQUISTO DELLA CITTADINANZA ITALIANA”. You must now sign an Accordo di Immigrazione form at the Questura. There should be an option for this when you apply at the post office (and it is a lower price than the year). ?are there different times of residences(residenza ellettiva)? A book and a snack are always advised! What we are trying to determine is the best and legally acceptable way for my daughter’s upcoming travel to Italy. Copy your passport. So if I understand right, we proceed with visa application, then in Italy convert to the permesso, right?. Can one travel to other Schengen countries while the permesso di soggiorno is being processed? Presumo che … Leaving Italy does not reset your time, but what it does do is give you those extra days. However, I was not asked this by the time I got to the permesso application. To just take the plunge and move there– plain and simple? Permessodisoggiorno.org, Roma. I intend to apply to a Master’s program at the University of Bologna next spring, and I want to clarify some things about the permesso and studying abroad. Hi Beatrice! We use a re-entry Visa can we come to your This is my first time applying, but over here in Florence it is WAY slower. The waiting is the worst! Yes, all of it. Your post says the receipt will allow you to pick the packet up once you If so, does she need to start the whole PdS process for this 90 day period, the full year- long intended stay, or not at all at this point? I arrived 15 minutes early and they were 3 hours behind schedule. Include a copy of your contract. However, due to my study purpose, I have to move to France now, and my current permesso has its expiry date on next monday. I can enter the country for less than 3 months even thought without a visa. It shouldn’t be, but I’m not sure! What’s the requirements for life time or 00 parmiso di soggiorno Can I go the next day and check? And I hadn’t done it in Rome before. My question is this: Do you think we should still get the kit and apply for the permesso within the 8 business days just in case we get the visa? It is very clear after reading it. If I have a 4-6 month student visa how long will my permesso be good for? Hi Kaitlan, And also understanding, of course, that nothing is ever so simple :). Is it necessary? Thanks! The application date is assigned, but not usually the pickup date. No need for a permesso! SO, can she: Hey Natalie, I’m Australian and I have a fiance who’s Italian who is actually visiting me in just 2 days, happy new year! Mio compagno all ingresso via mare alla richiesta del asilo e permesso di soggiorno, ha fornito una data di nascita sbagliata (motivo deceso improvviso dei genitori, che precedentemente l'hanno adottato e partenza improvvisa dal paese, praticamente scappato dopo il deceso violento dei genitori). Plus photos! Otherwise you need to find a way to notify them and be issued a new date and time. Sincerely, Hello Tracy! Ruthy! I still always go at the appointed time, just in case. My boyfriend lives in Rome, so I have a “landing place”, but I am wondering if it is possible for me to enter Italy in advance with the student visa in order to find a place to live and get settled in. Thanks! Just wanted to confirm I don’t need fotocopie of the modulo 1 that I https://www.portaleimmigrazione.it/. At the post office, take a number. I owe you big!!! When you get the questura, be prepared to wait and throw some elbows in line. Hi Ruthy – I am not an expert in visas, but I do believe that you can only work 20 hrs/week with a student visa. Its been more than a month I have applied in Questura. Rilascio, Rinnovo, Conversione, Duplicato, Aggiornamento del Permesso di soggiorno Richiesta Permesso di soggiorno CE lungo periodo Illimitata ( Carta di soggiorno CE) Richiesta Test d’italiano Cittadinanza Italiana. Again, do not panic. If you have citizenship, you do not need a visa. Oh, and I do have one quick question. Vorrebbe richiamare la famiglia dalla Sierra Leone, tra l'altro, quindi l'errore nel cognome è grave. Is it a problem if I cannot go on that particular date? Il primo passo per ottenere il permesso di soggiorno è quello di presentare regolare domanda tramite kit postale. I first thought it is blog and accidendtly found during surfing but now reading all the pages from your site. Thank you for taking the time to map this out. You should be able to use the receipt from the post office to apply for work. In that case, you will also still have a valid Schengen visa in your passport for any trips. Just because you are applying digitally. Or maybe am I just a bit naive, Natalie The time to be ” legal ” in this country is absolutely too much . Le lungaggini per il rinnovo dei permessi di soggiorno, il blocco dei ricongiungimenti famigliari, la sanatoria dei soli lavoratori domestici. Your email address will not be published. How to Get a Permesso di Soggiorno in Italy. This time you really do have to wait in line. School can not mail Acceptance letter (regardless of duration) until Aug 20th Oh my god, the forms! Hi Lauren, I think I had to bring the same documents that I included in my visa application. My husband came to Ialy from the USA with only our passports. Check online with your id number to see if it is ready, or pass by the police station to see if your name is posted outside. Get out a dictionary, open the kit, and start filling out forms. This is meant as a DIY guide, but I always suggest an immigration lawyer for specific questions or complicated cases. Thanks for this information. Hi David – uau. I have just completed my appointment at the Questura. I have applied for Permesso through my husband (Italian) in Calabria (South Italy). 3) Do you have any suggestions or recommendations for private health insurance? Assuming you’re not doing this from a consulate in another country not really seeing any other way. I am still don’t understand why they need all the documents again and again though you have work permit or Visa. I’m making it sound like I’m looking to be a total loafer or Cosmo Kramer in Italy (I’m not, I promise! A year (because I thought that was the shortest) or only 4-6 months. Salve, avrei una domanda. Use re-entry Visa. Pay attention to the giant screens that show which number the officials are currently serving. Hello Natalie! Once I retire, I will be joining my boyfriend in Florence. Domanda di permesso di soggiorno, come informarsi sulle tempistiche. I think they likely do, unless you live in Vatican City. Applying for a student Visa – must take language classes = 20 hr/week Travel to Italy in Sept, stay Sept-Dec (90 days only) with no visa At what point in the visa/schengen/permessio process can I apply for national healthcare? If so, did it have to meet or exceed a specific amount? I’ll be establishing residence in Milan proper….. You can be in Italy as an American (and many other country citizens) for 90 days in a 180 period. Just move right along to the next tabbachi and try again. After providing all asked for documentation, we were each given 10 year residency permits. Candidates eligible. This is because you have to convert your visa (which grants you access into the country) to a permit of stay (which allows you to actually stay in the country). Foreign nationals - that is non-EU citizens - may enter Italy provided that they hold both a valid passport and, if required, an entry visa issued in their country of origin. I was wondering if you would have any insight on this issue – I have a 12 month working holiday visa issued to me. However, that is nothing more than an somewhat educated guess! However, I will be going home on Dec. 09 to spend Christmas holidays. I don’t speak Italian and was so confused. Required fields are marked *. As for now i am traveling back and forth so i dont over stay my visa. I have been looking at doing this recently and dreading it and here is your generous and easy to follow guidelines. A presto Emma One of the reforms to come out of Romano Prodi's goverment is that you no longer need to go to the Questura request or renew your Permesso di Soggiorno. I have been looking at many and much in the past been covered by employer, once I secure position in Roma area who knows but need think of the family. Vediamo insieme le differenze tra carta di soggiorno e permesso di soggiorno. Dreamtrips alias Worldaventures esperienze? Thank you for the article! Hi Loulou – you don’t enter the country as a tourist. Are we still able to apply for this? Even if you are child of American citizens and you are more than 21 years old . Monteverde has the added benefit of being on the Tramline which is one of the most reliable forms of public transport in the city! Buongiorno, chiedo un chiarimento circa le possibilità di correzione di errori riportati sul permesso di soggiorno. So if you are in Italy for 80 days, and leave for 10, you still have 10 to spend over the next 6 months. The PLIDA certificate for level A2 or above is valid for the issue of a long term residence permit (permesso di soggiorno). just for transportation from sofia to Istanbul. A permesso di soggiorno (permit of stay) is not an entry visa, it is not a passport, and it is not an identity card. I also thought I would mention that waiting times probably vary on a number of factors, and I wouldn’t necessarily say they have been reduced in recent years. Are you sure about you response? It’s all such a mystery to me, and most expats I’ve known have all married an Italian! Hello Natalie, And you should be set from there. If yes please let me know the same. No one told me I need to bring copies of other things with me. grateful your info as always, I applied a teaching position, one requisite was ‘ valid working papers for Italy’ – unclear this meaning, I am EU so need Codice Fiscale, home address Italy (will be Anzio) then anagrafe. Thanks for your article. Otherwise, you need whatever visa would normally be required. Country and go again,how many times we can You have to go to a Post Office with a special window called a Sportello Amico. Hi again Natalie, I’m at Embassy Consular Services Monday to get the Codice Fiscale, but started apply for Teaching job as many option state Start 1st January, one prerequisite was ‘Valid Working Papers Essential’, I’d welcome your thoughts on this. Some sites seem to indicate that I would have to pay around 1/4 to 1/2 of that in Italian income taxes. Classes are incredibly expensive and takes half of her day 5 days a week Hi David – you will need the visa before you leave and will then convert that into the permesso. Once you have a PdS, you don’t have to keep going through the visa process, but you do need a visa issued by a consulate for your first PdS. That means the 90 days is technically built into whatever else you have, not hanging around to be used afterwards? Fantastic information! My daughter and I are beyond frustrated with not being able to get a straight answer on the following anywhere, including from the Italian Consulate and the US Department of State. DA PORTARE IN QUESTURA: Domanda di correzione; N° 4 fotografie formato tessera; permesso o carta di soggiorno + fotocopia; passaporto + fotocopia; marca da bollo da € 11,00; documentazione del motivo della correzione (se dati anagrafici da ambasciata dell'interessato). Hi Hassan – the issue is not getting the permesso. It is the visa that is converted into permesso di soggiorno. I’m not sure I will stay in Italy more than 90’s days though – do I need to get the PdS? But someone advised me to go directly to the office in Rebbibia and personally request. It is also your proof that you have applied, and you should technically carry it with you if you travel outside of Italy before you get your handy PdS card. I read through them all and didn’t find an answer to mine, which is: I am an American citizen arriving Oct. 2nd in Rome with a student visa, but I made plans to travel to Greece for ten days immediately after arriving in Rome (actually the next day, but likely not enough time to apply for the permesso). In this case, I just show up like he does and apply for my PdS, right? Al fine di ottenere un permesso di soggiorno pensionata sufficiente aiuto dalla sicurezza sociale. Since I need to establish residency in Rome and plan to stay for more than 90 days I requested a Visa which they refused. I think I waited two months for the my first appointment in 2010, but the most recent wait between application and appointment was only about 3 weeks this time around. I am not 100% sure on this one. (I’m sure I read this somewhere). Never done. Since he’s EU, my understanding is that I don’t need a specific visa prior to entering Italy (per the SF embassy). Thank you! Just keep in mind that you should keep the proof of application with you if you are traveling in and out of Italy. Not sure I understand… you do have a visa? Not sure a hostel address will work at the appointment itself. Mainly, the officer will go over the information with you, check your documents and take your finger prints. Penso al permesso di soggiorno temporaneo per i minorenni, per coloro che sono stati sfruttati. I don’t want to work in Italy, neither study, I just want to enjoy the museums and the Venetian life style for those 7 months. Thank you. I have been checking the status of my application online, “residence permit is being processed” is the only status i have been seeing for this one month. I was told that they would get in contact with me when the receive my kit and didn’t receive a reply. The price keeps changing so just show the form at the tabbachi and they will be able to give you the right version (it currently costs €14.62). Do I need a visa or PdS to move to Italy. Il tutto deve essere consegnato allo “Sportello Amico” degli uffici postali per la spedizione alla Questuracompetente, che rilascerà una ricevuta di avvenut… Go figure. A permesso can be granted only when a visa is 90 days or more. They will also ask you where you want to pick the permesso up, so be prepared to name a police station near your house. I’m a bit confused though, I have read some places that you do not need a visa to apply for a permesso di soggiorno, but you can do it just with a passport. I did not know this when I applied for the visa, and I was intending to travel around without a fixed address. I am EU and if I want to live and work in Rome, do I need PdS, or I just need to make an residence ( in which of course I need a motive of residence: work or study) ? Hi Natalie! 2) Some sites say that private health insurance will cost you $10,000/year.

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